How to id pottery without any marks......

ev Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:02 pm

It's almost impossible to verify unmarked pottery unless there are telltale shapes - styles - patterns or decorations that are a real give away.
The Shoji Hamada platter on trademe at the moment is creating quite a stir and is most interesting as he never marked his work...... so how do you verify ?? He visited Nz a couple of times and probably made many pots while here or brought them with him .... I have seen one attributed to him at a gallery in Auckland ... and there will be more around for sure.

**TimCaulton** Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:47 pm

I went through all my books on Hamada looking for something the same. As far as I could see Hamada's brush work was mostly of plant forms. The one on trademe looks like birds. Hamada may not have marked his pots, but he did sign the box for the pot. I have an early mark for Hamada somewhere in some old pottery book....

ev Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:03 pm

that dwing has put a bid on the Hamada plate.....
Very interesting.....

**collectiques** Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:12 pm

I was just looking at some of his pots in the Art & Object catologue today...

however the Lucie Rie stuff really caught my eye... What a Face

**TimCaulton** Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:29 am

ev wrote:that dwing has put a bid on the Hamada plate.....
Very interesting.....

Yeah I wanna see what the reserve is when the auction finishes. If no one bids you don't get to see the reserve.

**TimCaulton** Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:31 am

collectiques wrote:I was just looking at some of his pots in the Art & Object catologue today...

however the Lucie Rie stuff really caught my eye...

I dunno about Rie stuff, I know its rare and valuable but it just doesn't appeal. But it would still be nice to have one piece.......but not at the expence of some of the other pieces....auctions aye

ev Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:39 pm

Back to Shoji Hamada.... for now -
by the mere fact that you dwing put a bid on the platter -
that in itself would make it look as if it is verified...
maybe drummond thinks that..... I know that I would ....
Oh to have the dwing power Cool

Lucie Rie's work is so perfectly exquisite !
Hans Coper is to die for...... bounce

**TimCaulton** Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:43 pm

Im pretty sure the reserve will be in the several thousands, at least we will find out !!

**TimCaulton** Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:29 pm

When I was first starting out I used to look through all the NZ Potter mags trying to compare photos to pots I had found. Sometimes I got lucky.....Adrian Cotter, Helen Johnson, Peter Shearer are three that come to mind that I found that way. It would be good for there to be more books on all the NZ pottery.....I know of some in the works......Peter Collis is working on a book, Barry Brickell is doing and autobio. But there are some many more. Perhaps when the museum starts up things will move ahead quicker.

**TimCaulton** Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:30 pm

Hey only got to 1600 I was guessing it would be 3500....Im supprised it went so high!

ev Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:40 pm

My gut feeling is that it's not Hamada......
Man those comments were very interesting aye wot ?

**TimCaulton** Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:42 pm

Wonder why the seller went quiet and didn't reply to those last questions

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