Re: Wharetana ware

ev Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:54 pm

Tonykoni said "I heard rumours of a Wharetana catalogue illustrating the complete range but haven't seen one."

Gosh I'm always missing posts ...... and this one interests me no end!!!
If only one could find such a catalogue......... cloudnine

Titian Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:53 pm

Hi there
This is my first post, so here goes.
I have a few pieces of Wharetana including a lovely set of salad servers. I have been trying to work out which number between 1001 and 1041 they might take. There is no room on them for a number. Does anyone have any idea?
Thanks

**collectiques** Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:40 am

Titian wrote:Hi there
This is my first post, so here goes.
I have a few pieces of Wharetana including a lovely set of salad servers. I have been trying to work out which number between 1001 and 1041 they might take. There is no room on them for a number. Does anyone have any idea?
Thanks

Hiya Titian - welcome to the forum Smile

I wouldnt have a clue how the Wharetana numbers were allocated and to which piece...but I'm sure there are people around here who probably know.

We plan to put photos of the Wharetana shape range on the Crown Lynn shape guide eventually ( www.collectiques.co.nz/crownlynn.htm ) - So if you have photographs you wouldnt mind sharing for the guide - that would be fabulous... maybe we could post the unmarked one as well and someone reading might know the number...we can but try flower

Regards
Jo

**crownlynn** Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:05 pm

...part of the dinner service set and came with a large bowl...1034...they are attibutted as 1034-2 for the catalouge.

funho1 Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:51 am

Here is my first try at posting a pic.

funho1 Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:58 am

Attempt II

funho1 Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:59 am

And I should have added that this is shape 1014 ! Yeeha !!

funho1 Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:02 pm

The rear view !

**collectiques** Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:53 pm

funho1 wrote:

Attempt II

Brilliant stuff funho1 - got it on the 2nd try - flower

Mind if we add the wharetana shape to the Crown Lynn Guide too?

ev Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:26 pm

A WHARETANA poster from the Crown Lynn display at the New Lynn Library....

Wharetana ware - Page 2 WharetanawaredisplaypictureatNewLyn

funho1 Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:35 am

Feel free to add it ! Cheers Peter

**collectiques** Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:17 am

funho1 wrote:Feel free to add it ! Cheers Peter

Thanks Peter - have just added your photo - a great start to the Wharetana section...cheers flower

ev Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:13 pm

Another Wharetana for the catalogue as soon as I can lay my hands on it Very Happy

1012 Rauponga and Manaia Ashtray in the most beautiful turquoise that you ever saw!

**collectiques** Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:32 pm

ev wrote:Another Wharetana for the catalogue as soon as I can lay my hands on it

1012 Rauponga and Manaia Ashtray in the most beautiful turquoise that you ever saw!

ahhh saw that bidding war just before....looks like a fantastic piece ev... congrats flower

Titian Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:16 pm

Hi Everyone
I have photographed a selection of Crown Lynn Wharetana. Enjoy. Wharetana ware - Page 2 My_wha14

ev Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:42 pm

Wow that's amazing Titian and thanks Very Happy

That looks like a Wharetana brochure photo Cool

Can you share the numbers with us please.

Guest Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:39 pm

Hi, For our Wharetana shape guide, the salad servers are definately No. 1039
Directly in front of the servers beside the 1014 (Funhos) is a 1013 Koruru small tray.
The plaque with the Maori Woman is 1023 - Puhi Urutapu Tamahine.

Maybe Titian wont mind posting single photos so we can put these on the shape guide?

Will need to do some homework on the others... Smile

Titian Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:23 pm

Hi again,
Sorry, I should have written the numbers down.

The two boxes in the above photo are, on the left, number 1002 "Wakahuia". This one is a presentation box given to (I assume) valued clients of the high-end Wellington Menswear shop George Harrison & Co. Ltd on the occasion of their 21st anniversary in 1951. I think Te Papa has one of these, but unfortunately their database file for it does not have an image.

The box on the right is number 1008 "Waharua". This example has an original printed paper label on the bottom reading:

WHARETANA
No. 1008-Cigarette Box-
WAHARUA PATTERN
This octagonal box is graced with a usual[sic] Maori design as was done by Arawa carver Ahaha Te Rahui, and, in contrast to the usual avoidance of straight-line effect in carving, it is fashioned solely in straight-lines (according to the Maori dictionary by Rev. Williams). Waharua is defined as a rat-trap with two entrances, or also as a pattern in weaving, whilst the lid is designed with a simple form of Taniko design, used largely in mat-weaving.
Its retail price in 1950-54 was 36 shillings 9d which is written in pencil in a corner of the label.

I really hope this encourages other members to submit some Wharetana images for the shape guide. It would be absolutely amazing to see the full lineup of this beautiful series that Crown Lynn went to such lengths to provide some authenticity of design for. I will try to take a few individual pics for the shape-guide next week.

**TimCaulton** Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:56 pm

Saw a box load of this stuff at the local Salvation Army in Avondale today, selling for $5 a piece, couple of book ends and other bits and pieces.....but my hands were full of cream doughnuts so what could I do....just had to leave them there.............had you all going there for a bit didn't I !

Guest Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:05 pm

Thanks for that information Titian, your collection is beautiful. Smile

**collectiques** Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:59 pm

Titian wrote:

I really hope this encourages other members to submit some Wharetana images for the shape guide. It would be absolutely amazing to see the full lineup of this beautiful series that Crown Lynn went to such lengths to provide some authenticity of design for. I will try to take a few individual pics for the shape-guide next week.

Hiya Titian
Thanks so much for the fabulous information - I could use the one photo and try and split the information between but if you do have time - yes ...seperate photos would be easier to identify for the shape guide.

We've definitely been going in leaps and bounds on the shape guide lately... great stuff guys! flower

ev Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:10 pm

I haven't got my head around this new state of the art damn camera .....
but here is a photo of 1012 for the shape guide.....

**collectiques** Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:37 pm

oh it's just beautiful! Thanks very much ev...will post it this evening Smile

Titian Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:38 pm

Hi there
As promised, some individual pics for the shape guide.

Wharetana ware - Page 2 Wharet10

This is shape number 1002 'Wakahuia' or 'Treasure Box'. Definately made in 1951.

Titian Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:41 pm

Shape number 1008 'Waharua', 'the rat trap'.

Wharetana ware - Page 2 Wharet16

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